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Is Alltrue Closing Down? Update: Yes. What Next?

Kai Green
ByKai GreenApr 29, 2022 | 148 comments

 

(Update: 4/27)

Alltrue CEO Matt Richardson has, for the first time, confirmed that Alltrue is shutting down. Last night (4/26), he  confirmed to Forbes magazine that Alltrue is in the process of an Assignment for the Benefit of Creditor, which is an alternative to bankruptcy. “Unfortunately, I’m not allowed to comment further at the moment,” Richardson told Forbes in an email. “The assignee hopes to have an update soon, at which point there will be more information to share.”

Over the past few weeks, several posts and photos from former employees and others have been shared across social media saying that Alltrue was closing down, but this is the first time Richardson himself has made a public statement about the situation. There is still no word from Richardson about refunds for existing customers or delivery of Spring 2022 boxes.

If you're a subscriber and haven't already, read the Federal Trade Commission's (FTC) article "What To Do If You’re Billed for Things You Never Got, or You Get Unordered Products" (thank you SMC!) They include a sample letter for disputing credit and debit card charges. The FTC stresses the importance of a letter:

One thing to know: Some issuers let you dispute billing errors over the phone or online. However, to be sure that you get the full protection of the law, follow up with a letter.

The credit card issuer must acknowledge your dispute, in writing, within 30 days of getting it, unless the problem has been resolved. It must resolve the dispute within two billing cycles (but not more than 90 days) after getting your letter.

From the article:

By law, you have to dispute a credit card billing error in writing within 60 days of the date that the first statement that has the billing error was sent to you. Otherwise, you may get stuck with the bill.

Send a dispute letter to your credit card issuer at the address listed for billing disputes, errors, or inquiries — not the address for sending your payments. Look on your statement, online, or your credit card agreement to get the right address. Use this sample letter for disputing credit and debit card charges.

What if you agreed to delivery on a date in the future that turns out to be more than 60 days?

Can you still dispute the charge?

You’re likely outside the protection of the Fair Credit Billing Act. Still, some credit card issuers may extend the 60-day dispute period when a shipment is delayed. Send a dispute letter to your credit card company. Include copies of any documents showing the expected and actual delivery dates, including any notice the seller sent you about the shipment delay.

What if you used a debit card?

The consumer protections for debit cards are different than the protections for credit cards. You may not be able to get a refund for non-delivery or delivery of the wrong item. Contact your debit card issuer — often your bank — as soon as you know there’s a problem. Some debit card issuers may voluntarily offer protections. Start by calling the customer service number. Follow up with a letter. 

What if you paid through Paypal?

MSA reader Vanessa (thank you!) says contacting PayPal was successful:

"I called and the rep escalated it straight to a claim so I wouldn’t have to wait for a response that would never come. This actually immediately closed the claim in my favor with a full refund (I only asked 50%). According to PayPal, Alltrue is closing accounts and agreed to fully refund all claims. They aren’t fighting it. So if you paid through PayPal, call to file the dispute rather than file online, that way you can explain the situation and why it is more than 180 days (if it is)."

Comments from MSA readers offer other ideas. MSA reader Reeb (thank you!) encourages subscribers not to take no for an answer:

"Call your credit card company. If they tell you the charge was too long ago, tell them you prepaid for promised goods and explain the subscription model. Some companies are authorizing chargebacks, some are claiming failure to provide goods, and the simplest claims are if you used a card that offers one-year purchase protection (like from theft or breakage.) But talk to them and see how they want you to proceed. Don’t accept an outright no."

Last week, we shared the following:

There are several rumors swirling about Alltrue (formerly Causebox) possibly closing down their business.

Here's what we know:

  • When an attempt is made to "Reserve Now" and sign up for a new account at Alltrue.com, that is not possible as of April 20.
  • Alltrue social media accounts have not updated (Last update was on Twitter: 3/5, Facebook: 4/10 Instagram: 4/11).
  • A Reddit user has posted a document dated April 20 which appears to indicate Alltrue has filed for Assignment for the Benefits of Creditor (ABC), an alternative to bankruptcy.

In the past few days there have been multiple Reddit posts asking if bankruptcy is in the works and some unverified claims that all employees were laid off. One of the posts in our own MSA forum thread on this topic described still more unconfirmed claims that Alltrue was exploring alternatives to bankruptcy.

We stress that none of these claims, statements or documents have been verified or confirmed by Alltrue themselves. [As of 4/27, this is now confirmed by CEO Matt Richardson to Forbes.]

If you are an Alltrue subscriber, we encourage you to make your own inquiries with the company, do your own research and contact your credit card company about your options, should you decide to do so. Right now, there is no information about whether existing subscribers will get refunds or whether they will receive their Spring 2022 boxes.

What are your thoughts?

Kai Green
Kai Green
Kai Green is a freelance writer who loves happy surprises, which is why she loves subscription boxes. She has a favorite box every week and gets almost TOO excited about packaging. When she isn’t thinking about subscriptions she thinks about entertainment, pop culture and BTS. Her most fervent wish is that a BTS box becomes a reality.

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148 comments

Theresa

Apparently not. I am still receiving my boxes as of April 2023!

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Kathleen E

Good luck with PayPal- I contacted them via email, including supporting documents. My request was automatically denied as the system bumped it out for being over 180 days. I called them and explained the situation. We were not notified until August 23 that my daughter would not receive her membership boxes. The PayPal agent stated that they would not refund the money as it fell out of the 180 days. I explained the situation and she said it didn’t matter. The system would not allow her to override. I asked her why I had submitted supporting documentation if it didn’t matter. She apologized and told me to contact my bank.
So I have emailed AllTrue, with no reply and contacted PayPal with no success. I’m hoping my bank will help me.

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Sheila

I received several items that were damaged: Ceramic Canisters and a basket that was all squished out of shape. I have written about replacements but none have been forthcoming. What can I do?

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Katina Gronberg

I also got an annual membership, received only one box, did not receive my add-ons from March. I didn’t find out that they were filling for Bankruptcy until last month. Then I start receiving emails that they would going to start sending out spring boxes and should be done by end by July, so I went into account and found out they canceled me. I never cancelled, I thought I was being patient. Never again with company!!!!!

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Laura Carr

AllTrue had been my favorite box. I discovered many loved products with an attractive discounted price. Now I will have to look elsewhere. My spring box finally came in late summer and was fine-just really late and with truly poor communication from the company about what happened and what were next steps. The next steps were that they were just sending us leftovers from previous boxes and that we had no say in selecting them. That’s changing all the rules unilaterally on a contractual obligation, so I don’t feel that my box really contributes to my four boxes promised on a yearly subscription. Rule changes never seem to benefit the customers. Furthermore, add ons that were ordered in February or March did show up. Again, it took months to arrive beyond their own shipping guidelines. Several items were missing from the package, but they had been replaced with some other lower value items sometimes or checked off the packaging slip but not included in the box. A huge shame because I liked their concern for our Earth and

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Meredith

I had the exact same thing happen — had just been charged for my annual membership in March 2022, and then found out my subscription was “cancelled” and there’s no recourse. I’m out the entire subscription fee, and it’s too late for chargebacks.

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Nancy K Bedford

I am finding this information only today as I sent a message that I was confused. I received my Spring box yesterday (7/23). I am an annual membership and noted that none of the contents would have been something I would have opted. Also the product “coupons” expired on 7/22/2022. I am still owed 2 boxes and have not received a message to make my options.
I, like many, am very disappointed. I loved Causebox and have since inception. Will continue to watch for your ongoing messages on how to respond.

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Mary

I’ve read that summer box will not have any selection process so that the boxes are shipped before end of summer.

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Nausil zaheer

Yes I think they are back with new owners hopefully I will get my 30k back.

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Angela

DO NOT TRUST THEM! They reopened but since I cancelled my annual subscription so it wouldn’t auto renew in Fall of 2022, they won’t fulfill the remaining two boxes I’m still owed on my annual subscription. I didn’t do a chargeback cause I used PayPal and my debit card to pay. I am owed two boxes and the “new owners” won’t fulfill them. DONT TRUST THEM!! They are still the same liars as always!

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Bambi

I am in the same position but only one box short. There was some nonsense on the web page about getting my (already paid for) spring box if I would re-up. The box was not appealing to begin with. Hard pass.

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Victoria

They posted on social media….I wouldn’t trust them with a 39-and-a-half-foot pole.

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CT

Did anyone else receive an email saying Alltrue is back?

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Lauren Y

Yes! I just got it too! I’m very leery about this

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Mary H

I got the email too. It said Spring box ships mid July, Summer by the end of the month. If they can follow though, that will go a long way towards helping me overlook past delays.

CT

Did anyone else receive an email saying Alltrue is back?

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Laura Armstrong

What is you paid for a yearly subscription. I paid in November of 2021. I am still owed Spring, Summer and Fall boxes. Do I have any recourse since it so far out from when I paid.

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Linda

Ditto. I bought this as a gift for someone. They ordered their Spring Box, never got it. Thought this was going to be a great ‘gift that keeps giving”. So disgusted

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Katie

I am in the same boat! I signed up and paid in November of 2021 and only received one winter box and super late. This is crazyness. It has been so long since I paid as well, do I have any chance of getting a refund?

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Amanda L

I’m in the same boat as everyone else. Didn’t know what was going on and no way to contact customer support. Just learned they shut down and I’m on the phone with my bank now, hoping they can rectify the charge. I received one box very late in the winter and nothing since. What a joke

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Rachel Jenkyns

Wow. This is a horrific way for a company to treat people/customers!!!! I was an annual member so I had already paid for my four boxes, spring 2022 was supposed to be my last as I canceled months ago before my auto renewal went through thankfully!! I cannot understand how this is how it is going to shake out. Where are all the products. They’ve been paid for. So what, the stock is just stored in a warehouse where no one can get to them and everyone’s been fired so no one gets anything. Absolute b.s. I emailed the [email protected] for two weeks with no response. And like the article states no social media will reply; nor has anything been updated. Super pissed.

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Steph

Good luck getting a refund from PayPal if you paid outside the 180-day window. I tried calling and kept getting kicked to their website, so I filed a dispute there, which immediately got denied. Upon calling again, I was not able to speak directly to a rep. I messaged their customer service team who just directed me to the terms and conditions and suggested I “work with the sellers” to resolve the issue, which of course, I had already attempted. If anyone has luck with PayPal, I’d love to hear how you did it! *My Spring market purchase claim is still pending, since that at least was withing PayPal’s protection period.

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Help

How do I make sure that they don’t renew my subscription?

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Sandy

I went into their website and cannot figure out any way to remove the payment method that is on file. I do not want them to have this information! Anyone know how to get this removed from the site?

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Jennifer

Like others I JUST found out about this. Realized my Spring box (and marketplace add on order) should’ve arrived already. Looked in my email: nothing. Went to the website and saw both had been canceled. Checked paypal and didn’t see a refund. Called & spoke to a customer service agent to file for a dispute on both payments. Will follow up with the result. WTF Alltrue – thanks for ruining subscription boxes for all of us.

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Cass

I wish I would have found this information sooner! I’ve been emailing and trying to get a hold of someone in Customer Support since the beginning of May. I have since reached out to my bank, the BBB, and my local Attorney General. My bank said they couldn’t do anything for me being that it was more than 60 days old.
So infuriating! This is so shady, I will NEVER do a subscription box ever again. It’s despicable and a really horrible way to treat customers. I hope this follows them in their future endeavors.

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Peg Tayler

I’m pissed! This “ socially conscious” company took my money and bombed.
I’m beyond mad.

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Brenda

Oh I loved Causebox/Alltrue for 2 years. So terrifically disappointed in them, feel also like I was duped into thinking it was a women-owned operation, because it was Hannah who would show the seasonal boxes. Come to find out it was started and mismanaged by two white guys! Very thankfully, Discover has honored my refund.

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NeverAgain

I, like others, kept checking my subscription. After they took MONTHS to ship – I cancelled but knew I had 2 boxes left of my annual subscription. When I checked today – they canceled my spring box which was ordered 4 months ago! And I’ve still paid for the entire year! AND you can’t even contact anyone because they took that away. What a joke this company is!!

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Catherine Palmer

They charged me and accepted my order after this statement was made (of course with no delivery). This is infuriating!

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Momoftwoinva

I absolutely LOVED my Causebox & looked forward to it each season. When I didn’t get my Spring box I was surprised and logged into my account. Everything was there but a shipping date. I found this off but figured shipping is a lot harder for everyone these days so I’ll just keep checking. However, I was prompted to consider adding all these great products to my order & to upgrade my membership before the annual price increases! WOW! How shady can you be? You’re shutting down operations but continuing your sales & asking customers to upgrade. I’m DEEPLY disappointed. I tried several subscription boxes & this was the only one I retained. I got some lovely items in the past but how they done me & countless others has left a bad taste in my mouth towards future subscriptions.

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Sharon in TX

After this fiasco, I won’t get a yearly box subscription with anyone else!

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NANCY J HALL

my thoughts are after missing one box last of my subscription and waited and waited and waited they said oh it will be there end of June and immediately renewed my F ING subscription……so there is that

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Patty Curtiss

In February 2022 I received an email offering me the chance to renew early at the current price, rather than the upcoming higher price. I did this for about $220. They had to have known they were in trouble at that point but still took my money. That’s not very ‘Alltrue’ of them. I’m out over $300.

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Alana Lynd

They are still accepting new members on their site!! So corrupt! I’m sorry this is happening to you and I hope you get your money back.

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Rebecca B Beteag

I also renewed at the lower price for 2 subscriptions. I made a purchase from the shop, too. One subscription auto renewed in January. I disputed all three of these charges through my bank, Wells Fargo. So far, the subscription charges are not resolved as Alltrue has 45 days to respond. My shop order of $63 settled in my favor, with the explanation the charge back was not disputed by Alltrue’s bank. I would suggest anyone to get in touch with their bank and speak to a person. Make sure you stress goods not received. It was a bit difficult for me, as the representative I was speaking with was from a country where subscription boxes are not available, but I persisted and got the cases opened. I have read elsewhere that Alltrue is not disputing charge backs, but I would assume the sooner you get your claim in, the better.

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Rebecca B Beteag

My $423 for renewing for an additional year has been refunded! Still waiting on resolution for the auto renewal charged in January.

Holly

I was charged for the spring 2022 box and it still hasn’t shipped. if you try to go to the “Contact us” and the “Community Support
For membership and shipping questions” it says the webpage isn’t available and that they are “Working on it”. i will be contacting my bank to see if I cant get a refund.

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ellen

I have the same problem. My subscription for 2022 automatically renewed. I received my winter box but have yet to receive the spring box or the market order I placed in March. When I went to the contact us page, I was sent to a 404 error page. Then, decided to google Alltrue and found this article. I used PayPal for my purchases so will be reaching out to PayPal and my bank. Shoddy business practice for sure!

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Kim

This is exactly my situation too! Trying to contact PayPal right now.